Discussion continued as to how water could pass through the meter with the valve supposedly shut off and how the water well automatically kicks in if and when there was water demand. Retired CSD employee Dan Siria stated it was shortly after Mr. Porter’s well was installed that Wes Snyder (a former district and later Deerwood employee) wanted to borrow a valve wrench because the Porter property was going to use only the water well. Ron Young (a Deerwood Corporation employee) countered with, “Why would, why would Wes borrow a valve wrench when we have probably 15 or 20 of them”. President Kinsella advised that was an argumentative point and both sides had already stated their positions. Director Mark Skoien questioned how the water supply was switched from the ground well to the CSD. Ron Young advised all he had to do was shut off their RP valve. IGM Tynan advised the fix was simply turning on the valve yet Mr. Porter stated there was no way of knowing how long it had been shut off. Ron Young stated there was no reason for Deerwood employees to shut off any valves belonging to the district and any issues involving such matters were taken to district employees who would shut off the valves. VP Lew Richardson commented, “I’m looking at consumption, I don’t see how a valve could be shut and water could flow through a meter”.
Director Victor Afanasiev asked Mr. Porter if he was not receiving water why did he pay the bills? Mr. Porter stated they had probably a thousand bills a month at one time or another and to be honest with you I just sign the checks. Director Afanasiev asked if he had an accounting department? Mr. Porter responded that they would not know if a valve was on or off. Financial Administrator Charise Reeves stated when a customer has a meter it doesn’t matter whether they use water or not they still pay the monthly service fee. Director Skoien asked if Mr. Porter was arguing the meter was shut off and the consumption numbers were read wrong and were not correct. Mr. Porter stated that is what he believed. Director Skoien commented he did not know how we could prove that one way or the other. When President Kinsella asked if Mr. Porter had anything else to say, Porter responded “give me as much as you can” (money).
Director Emery Ross asked how IGM Tynan was going to handle the $11,000 request to which President Kinsella responded it was not up to him, but the board. Director Ross wanted a staff recommendation.
(Multiple voices)
Director Skoien asked if Tynan believed the readings were correct to which he (Tynan) responded he thought they were. President Kinsella stated the CSD was in the business of selling water and would not turn off a meter unless there was a problem. President Kinsella asked what the board wanted to do to which Director Skoien responded “I don’t, no way for the board, for me any way, to figure it out, I mean we need a staff recommendation”. Director Emery Ross said “I’d like Dan to research this and see if we owe (inaudible) come back with a recommendation to the board which we can approve”. President Kinsella stated we had already done such with the billing officer’s report and didn’t think it would be productive to kick it back to Dan Tynan and have the billing officer do the same thing. Kinsella suggested taking action now.
Charise Reeves commented that Dan Tynan was hired June 30th, 2010, and since the Porter group was claiming the valve was shut off when Dan was there, the valve could only have been off from that time forward (and therefore not back in 2007 as originally claimed) and there was no fraudulent readings since there was no consumption reported.
VP Richardson made the motion to deny the request based on the consumption usage of our records on 13 different occasions where water passed through the meter and was billed. President Kinsella seconded the motion. Director Ross argued that someone should not pay for a meter that wasn’t producing water.
Mr. Porter stated: “I don’t know if a district like this could horse trade, but I’d be willing to horse trade, ah, I’ve been paying availability charge on that 6 acres right along, ah, I would trade the ah, lateral for ah not having any payment of this money.”
Multiple voices
VP Richardson: “I think the critical issue here, for the board to consider, is that it does show water consumption through the meter, now regardless if there were times there was no consumption, like I said, 12 months prior to the candidate’s night on October 18th, 2008 there was absolutely no consumption, on that night who knows what happened but there was 57 units used for that month, so, I don’t know.”
BOARD VOTE: Aye, Kinsella, Afanasiev, Richardson and Skoien; nay Director Ross.
Charise Reeves: “Can I ask, and I know this is not agendized but it has been brought up multiple times, where exactly are we standing on his two laterals, are, is that going to be an agenda item, is it going to be verification (inaudible)?”
President Kinsella: “As far as I’m concerned Dan resolved that”
Charise Reeves: “Because I’ve I’ve got one thing in a set of minutes but I’m hearing something different here”
Director Skoien: “I think it’s operations”
Charise Reeves: “I think we need to clarify it so that we can put this one to bed”
IGM Tynan: “Ok, well Emery wanted me to make a recommendation, I’m just thinking, if the guys, if Mr. Porter has been paying availability…”
President Kinsella: “The property, Mr. Porter has been paying availability on those properties
IGM Tynan: “inside place of use”
President Kinsella: “He needs laterals”
Unknown: “one”
Director Skoien: “They found one”
Charise Reeves: “They found one”
Director Richardson: “Oh really?”
Charise Reeves: “They don’t have the other”
President Kinsella: “Put it in”
IGM Tynan: “OK”
Charise Reeves: “Can we have consensus by the board, everybody agree?”
Director Ross: (cheering)
Director Skoien: “I said that a month or two ago”
Charise Reeves: “OK, Mr. Porter you get your laterals sir”
Mr. Porter: “I get my lateral we can forget about this part ok.”
Charise Reeves: “OK”
Director Skoien: “Yeah, you get the lateral….”
Charise Reeves: “Thank you for clarifying cuz we’re going all around here, we can put that one to bed”
Mr. Porter: “I’d like to ah withdraw my comment about the attorney ah, I will not go to my attorney with anything, I think we worked out a good deal here, I’m getting the lateral, ah you’re, being paid up through today and you’ll continue to be paid.”
Charise Reeves: “OK”
VP Richardson: “Well, you know, it’s not a consensus”
Charise Reeves: “hum?”
VP Richardson: “It’s not a consensus,
Charise Reeves: “OK”
VP Richardson: “because, as I told you Mr. Porter, other people have been paying availability fees since the early 80s
Charise Reeves: “So except for you”
VP Richardson: “…all I wanted to know was if that property, prior to your purchase, was also paying availability but the board wants to go ahead and give you a lateral that’s fine, but I’m against it until we find that out”
Charise Reeves: “One other thing question since it also relates to Mr. Porter, on the last meeting we were supposed to have an Ops meeting for his other three properties, do you want to schedule the Ops meeting or what’s….?”
President Kinsella: “No? Dan said, doesn’t….”
Charise Reeves: “OK, I’ll let, so that one is in your hands, “
President Kinsella: “That’s agreeable with you, is that right?”
Mr. Porter: “I’m agreeable to skip the other meeting, leave those three pieces out, we don’t have that discussion any further,
Charise Reeves: “OK”
Mr. Porter: “but again, I’m asking for the lateral in lieu of trying to get money this way,
Charise Reeves: “OK, so the other three properties are just postponed until you (inaudible) get back”
President Kinsella: “Then it’s my understanding that you want to withdraw your comment about an attorney?”
Mr. Porter: “yes”
Director Skoien: “Don’t say the “A” word”
President Kinsella: “what?”
Director Skoien: “Don’t say the “A” word” (laughing)
President Kinsella: “Hey, the man made a statement I just want to confirm it that’s all”
Charise Reeves: “I’m just trying to tie up the loose ends”
Multiple voices
Mr. Porter: “I would miss you too”
President Kinsella: “Say again?”
Mr. Porter: “I would miss you too, I’ll take that back too”
President Kinsella: “I’m not your enemy, I never was. We disagree, but that’s ok”
Mr. Porter: “I would like to see a vote so that Dan knows what to do.:
President Kinsella: “Do what?”
Multiple voices
Mr. Porter: “Is there a vote of four people who says they’ll put in the lateral and we’ll forget about this money here”
Charise Reeves: “Yes, they already voted to deny the request for the money, OK, so, you don’t get the money
Multiple voices, cross talk
Mr. Porter: “I don’t get the money but how about the lateral?”
President Kinsella: “You got the lateral”
Charise Reeves: “Consensus four to one for the lateral, you get your lateral, he has full go ahead to put in the lateral.
Mr. Porter: “You know, you guys are easy” (laughter)
Presentation by Mountain Alarm regarding a proposed security system for the CSD office, board room and treatment plant. Director Ross questioned what it would do to the budget to which Charise Reeves advised it had not been included but IGM Tynan countered that there had been two burglaries. Director Ross questioned how such a system would affect the budget – not included. Director Skoien confirmed the cost as $1,800 to install then $102/month for monitoring. Ross questioned what the loss was….to which Reeves advised only records that they knew of. Tynan stated it was not so much about theft of materials as protection of the water system. The alarm company representative advised it could take as little as 60 minutes to do an unbelievable amount of damage to our company. Director Afanasiev questioned the process of contacting appropriate authorities in the case an alarm was triggered. Tynan advised security was a must and should have been done years ago. During discussion of the cost, VP Richardson mentioned that the recent recovery of $40,000 for the waste water plant would provide about 32 years of alarm service. Director Afanasiev stated it was necessary especially in light of the numerous break-ins lately. President Kinsella mentioned the daily Sheriff’s log of activity but Afanasiev advised not every incident is reported to the public and relayed a recent situation where an owner thwarted an in progress burglary of their home.
President Kinsella made the motion to accept the two year lease proposal by Mountain Alarm for the three buildings based upon recent difficulties our CSD had experienced along with the probability we’d get hit again. Director Ross amended the motion to have Tynan investigate how to cover the cost of the system in other areas, Tynan referenced the waste water money recovery.
VOTE: aye, unanimous.
[NOTE: I raised this security issue on October 2, 2011 in an agenda request which read:
“Discussion/action. Request information regarding the possibility of missing records; initial and subsequent law enforcement reports about past break in, and funding a security program regarding plant facilities and official records. Propose a budget item such as “Facility Security” to include and fund alarm equipment, installation, and 24/7 monitoring. System might also include a “panic button” for main office. Discuss off site storage of historical records vs fire/theft protected storage on site. Protection of our facility and historical records are a priority.”
Although the board finally approved a system on February 21, 2012, the administrative office was burned out five-six days later. Thus far I still have not received any official reports regarding the burglaries or missing records subsequently discovered after a Grand Jury request for the same.]
BOARD MEETING RECESS
1614hrs, reconvene.
IGM Dan Tynan gave an update as to the new AMR system software and training. Approximately 800 new meters have already been installed and seven or eight illegal connections have been discovered. Board approval for the Springbook software module and training to continue the drive-by meter reading system project.
VOTE: unanimous.
FLEETMATICS (vehicle monitoring system), received $1,000 reduction from insurance company and will re-submit for next year however, there is no guarantee those funds will be available.
Mariposa County Board of Supervisors approved payment of the over $40,000 bill to public works for the waste water facility.
THROCKWISP CONTRACT
Financial Administrator Charise Reeves briefed the board on the past history of the Throckwisp contrac. The company has apparently changed its name after the original contract had been signed. Directos Skoien asked why the item was on the agenda.
VP Richardson: “I want to make a point first, I’m sorry Charise, it’s going to be for the record, I’ll get you a copy of it when I do the tape “
Charise Reeves: “OK”
VP Richardson: “First of all, this is not what I asked for in my agenda request, I asked for the signed contract “
Charise Reeves: “I got this request on Thursday, the change, because it was not on my agenda as of Tuesday, I was told it was added on Thursday. I was trying to get Minutes done, I looked initially for it I could not find it, we’ve got it, I just got to find it”
Director Skoien: “You mean the first signed contract?”
Multiple voices
Charise Reeves: “The first signed contract, I’ve got it”
Director Skoien: “That deals with the $300 a month and the free service?”
Charise Reeves: “Yeah, but he wanted it signed – the one in here is not signed “
VP Richardson: “Yeah but you stated in here that it is the original contract and it is not”
Charise Reeves: “It is, it’s just not the signed contract”
VP Richardson: “No it is not, I have a copy of the signed contract and it is different”
Charise Reeves: “Really?”
VP Richardson: “Yes really”
Charise Reeves: “Because that’s what’s in in the electronic ”
VP Richardson: “And you also stated in here that this is the revised contract, it is not the revised contract”
Charise Reeves: “It’s what’s on our electronics section”
VP Richardson: “Well your records, or whoever did them, are wrong.
Charise Reeves: “Like I said I was doing last minute (multiple voices, cross talk)
VP Richardson: “I spent the better part of a whole day going through these three contracts and not one of them matches with the other.”
Charise Reeves: “OK, I will have to do more research, but this is why I said I needed more than a day to do that”
VP Richardson: “Well I understand that you needed more time but the attorney
Charise Reeves: “…and I explained that to you and to Bill and to Dan….”
VP Richardson: “will you let me finish?”
IGM Tynan: “ I sent you an email”
President Kinsella: “Hang on a sec”
VP Richardson: “The corrections that the attorney suggested were pretty major, they were, insert titles and headings none of that is reflected in the revised”
Charise Reeves: “No, no we haven’t done anything”
VP Richardson: “Alright, never mind – go ahead Charise you do it”
Charise Reeves: “Nothing ever happened after this email from the attorney”
VP Richardson: “Then you should not represent it as the revised contract “
Charise Reeves: “no that “
VP Richardson: “and the other one as the original”
Charise Reeves: “that was the revised prior to (bangs table) getting any attorney information”
VP Richardson: “That is not correct because some of the information the attorney put in there was updated on the contract, it’s a work in progress”
Director Skoien: “Well it says, are you talking about attorney comments on the revised contract?
Charise Reeves: “There are two different times when the attorney got involved, one where we added in his comments, this was after the very last meeting and the revised contract that was at the meeting (bangs table) was sent to him, I had a follow up with him a couple of months later and said hey have you ever looked at this and these were the last comments I got back to him I have not touched the Throckwisp contract since this came back to me”
VP Richardson: “OK let me, let me just try again, hang on here, number one the contract in the board packet represented as the original is different than the contract signed by board president Sally Punte, Secretary Connie Holley and Throckwisp Vice President Marv Dealy on May 22nd 2008”
Director Skoien: “OK what page numbers … “
Multiple voices, cross talk
VP Richardson: “Would you please let me finish?”
Director Skoien: “I want to know the page numbers of the contract I’m just trying to keep up”
Charise Reeves: “It’s not in there”
Director Skoien: “Oh”
VP Richardson: “You didn’t put the contracts in there?”
Charise Reeves: “What you’re reading is not in there”
VP Richardson: “Ah, no, no, because that’s the copy I have
Director Skoien: “Ok, ok”
VP Richardson: “number two, the contract represented as the revised Throckwisp contract contains only some of the changes suggested by our attorney and is clearly a work in progress and not ready for signing, in addition to a number of minor corrections made by our attorney the following major changes were not made, and I’ve got a whole list I’m not going to read through them, three changes in the revised Throckwisp contract do not reflect the attorney’s email they include paragraph 3, paragraph 5 on rent, paragraph 10, etc., now the, the thing about this that really bothers me is, is was Raymond aware that we changed the rent agreement so that six employees would get internet service?”
Charise Reeves: “Well he received the contract, if you look at it (multiple voices, cross talk)
VP Richardson: “It says a maximum of six employees….”
Director Skoien: “ maximum, doesn’t mean that “
VP Richardson: “right doesn’t mean that we have to and I understand the SCADA system is involved so I can understand that, when employees leave is that service disconnected?”
Charise Reeves: “Yes, I, I give them, well the ones that left on their own accord they were given the option did they want to purchase it from the district or did they want me to just have Throckwisp take it back. The one that just occurred will just be uninstalled” [Recent termination of an employee.]
VP Richardson: “right”
Charise Reeves: “we currently have one credit for equipment installation, we’ll at least we did with the old company when we took off Jeff Mann’s”
VP Richardson: “right, you know, all I’m saying is when an agenda request comes in for specific information don’t try to pass this off as what was asked. Now I understand you were, you were hard pressed for time but calling this the original and the revised is incorrect“
Charise Reeves: “I
VP Richardson: “now I don’t know why you can’t find the signed contract that should be in a folder called contracts “
Charise Reeves: “It should be but if you look at that file folder one, it is crammed full of stuff so sometimes you just can’t find it because there’s stuff in between”
VP Richardson: “Well “
Charise Reeves: “It’s in my office somewhere because I remember seeing it”
VP Richardson: “I know but Charise, I requested this January 23rd
[NOTE: IT WAS AN AGENDA ITEM REQUEST: THROCKWISP CONTRACT]
Charise Reeves: “I was not told to put it on this agenda until last Thursday”
IGM Tynan: “No but I did send an email about a month ago”
Charise Reeves: “about giving him electronically and I said, is it, does he want electronic or physical, and I sent it back OK, but it wasn’t on this agenda until Thursday and I explained I needed extra time to do this research because my plate has been full”
VP Richardson: “I understand, I understand”
Charise Reeves: “because I didn’t want to put it in here because I knew, I was trying, I didn’t want to be here at eight o’clock or midnight on that Friday”
VP Richardson: “right”
Charise Reeves: “as it was I got out of here at five-thirty, I asked for more time, I asked three of you not to put it on this agenda because I wanted the time to find the right stuff”
VP Richardson: “well, just finding the written, the signed contract would have been perfect.”
Charise Reeves: “So I went with what was electronically in the system under contracts as the original.”
VP Richardson: “But that’s not the signed contract, that’s all I’m saying.”
Director Skoien: “Alright, time out. I want to be able to follow what you’re talking about here Lew, I mean regardless of what we’re doing. The first lease one through fourteen pages, that’s like 72 to 84, then you have another one that is page 86 to ninety something? OK, so, “
Charise Reeves: “Those are what”
Director Skoien: “These are both revised?”
Charise Reeves: “No, the first one is what is in our computer system listed as original contract but it is not a signed version“
Director Skoien: “2008?”
Charise Reeves: “2008. The one, the second one is what”
Director Skoien: “2010?”
Charise Reeves: “was in there as revised, OK?”
VP Richardson: “And it is not revised”
Charise Reeves: “And it was revised from the original one, with initial modifications done based upon board meetings but it was not the final revision because we never took Raymond’s final ah suggestions – never came back to the board.”
VP Richardson: “OK, when did you get ah Raymond’s final suggestions?”
Director Skoien: “Point of order let me finish my question Lew because I think I’m starting to follow you here”
(Keys jingling)
Charise Reeves: “I’ll find out – I’ll be right back, I’m going to get the email……”
Director Skoien: “Could you wait a minute please, please, calm down, you guys are getting, now, all I want to know is attorney comments on revised contract, these suggestions, where it says paragraph 5, paragraph 6 all that stuff, is that for the first contract”
Charise Reeves: “The second”
VP Richardson: “The second one”
Director Skoien: “or the second one?”
Charise Reeves: “where this left with the board was”
Director Skoien: “OK let me, let me finish my other, OK, and without those in there Lew are you saying both of these are word for word?”
VP Richardson: “No they are not”
Director Skoien: “Oh I though you said they were basically not changed?”
VP Richardson: “no, no, no, I’m saying…..”
Multiple voices/cross talk
Director Skoien: “but some of the major 2010 contract “
VP Richardson: “Yes, I’m saying some of the major additions that Raymond requested are not reflected in what has been presented as the revised contract”
Director Skoien: “So it’s different than the first one and somewhat revised but not final?”
VP Richardson: “Yes, and the first one that was called the original is also different from the signed one”
Director Skoien: “OK, but I, I understand what you are saying but I read this, “I suggest adding a recital or two that there was a previous agreement between the parties”
VP Richardson: “Right, that’s not in there”
Director Skoien: “OK, no, I think what he’s saying is that these should be added I wouldn’t take it as being in there by reading this, that’s just me personally”
VP Richardson: “Then you wouldn’t call it revised.”
Director Skoien: “But is was revised at one time over 2008 right?
Charise Reeves: “yes – yes”
Director Skoien: “I’m just trying to get it clear”
VP Richardson: “Not by this” (Attorney’s detailed suggestions in 2010).
Director Skoien: “If it’s, if it’s different than in 2008 it’s it’s revis revised maybe it’s red one, OK?”
VP Richardson: “You’ll have to read through it, but what you’ll have to have is what I was able to get, I couldn’t get it from the office I got it from a former director, is the signed contract then it will all be clear to you and that’s what I requested to begin with.”
Director Skoien: “well that maybe true but what I’m saying is this is for 2010 and you even say that it is not word for word it is different than the 2008”
VP Richardson: “Correct”
Director Skoien: “Well I call that revised, now he’s saying add this to it and it would be more revised, that’s all I’m saying.”
VP Richardson: “Charise, when did you receive Raymond’s email?”
Charise Reeves: “I’ll go get the email and I’ll tell you exactly because”
Director Skoien: “I’m just trying to say it was changed somewhat and now he wants these in there right?”
VP Richardson: “I don’t know if that’s the way you look at it because some of the changes in here I do believe were made but they were very minor …”
Director Skoien: “Right”
VP Richardson: “..the big ones, the titles, the headings, the..”
Director Skoien: “But if there was some changes made wouldn’t you call it a revision, that’s all I’m saying”
VP Richardson: “Not revised – revised. If you read this report it makes it sound like we were all ready to do stuff but ah, let’s see “both parties were supposed to take the contract to their attorneys and discuss any revisions”, OK, “staff received Raymond’s response which is included below”, OK, “we never heard back from anyone from Throckwisp”, but it doesn’t say we completed the revisions.”
Director Skoien: “No, I’m thinking “
VP Richardson: “Right here it says “attached is the original and the revised Throckwisp contracts”, both those statements are incorrect. “
President Kinsella: “But you have the original”
VP Richardson: “I have the original and I couldn’t get it from the office”
Director Skoien: “I’m not arguing that point”
VP Richardson: “And I’ve been asking for it since January 23rd.”
Director Skoien: “Calm down, calm down”
VP Richardson: “I’m fine.”
Director Skoien: “I’m not arguing that point, all I’m, maybe mine is a semantics thing but the fact that it’s different than 2008 I call it a revised contract, maybe it’s not the latest or up-to-date or the right one, but I call that revised. When he makes this list and he wants these changes made to this 2010 contract that’ll be another revision, that’ll be another revised contract.”
VP Richardson: “That’s why I called it a work in progress.”
Director Skoien: “Well it’s, exactly, with these not added yet it’s a work in progress.”
VP Richardson: “Right because it’s not ready for signing. That’s the whole point”
Director Skoien: “OK, I’m just trying to give you, lined up here. Because I thought you said at one point that there wasn’t a word different between the two contracts.”
VP Richardson: “I said the three contracts – none of them are the same”
Director Skoien: “Oh, none of them are the same.”
VP Richardson: “The one that is represented as the original is not the one that was signed by Sally Punte, and ah, Connie Holley and Marv Dealy from Throckwisp.”
Director Afanasiev: “So that would be the only one”
Director Skoien: “I understand better now.”
VP Richardson: “And one of the biggest changes was the package for the office being turned into six employees getting free internet service.”
President Kinsella: “Yeah, I didn’t know that”
Director Afanasiev: “On what grounds?”
VP Richardson: “Ah, because they use the SCADA system and needed to get on the internet
Multiple voices
Unknown: A little bribery there
Director Ross: (inaudible)
Director Skoien: “But it was a good deal for us (inaudible) pay for that”
[NOTE: Charise Reeves returns to board room after approximately 2-1/2 minutes]
Charise Reeves: “Raymond sent this to me October 22, of ’10, here is a copy of the original but it’s marked up and I didn’t include this one for you guys. But this one had everybody’s signatures, but as I was running last minute trying to get this for the packet I did not verify that this was exactly what was electronically done that said original Throckwisp contract”
VP Richardson: “That’s the same as this one right?”
Charise Reeves: “OK? Copy of it yeah. So, this is the exact original but because we were in meetings we marked it up – this is a copy, I’ve got it in there somewhere, OK? But like I said I was in the middle of doing Minutes on Thursday, I spent a little bit of time and this is why I didn’t want it on here because I needed time to do the research properly.”
VP Richardson: “But I made the request January 23rd.”
Charise Reeves: “But that’s not my fault, I am not in charge of what’s on the agendas. I responded on Thursday when I was told it’s going to be on there.”
IGM Tynan: “Well I sent you an email (inaudible, cross talk)
VP Richardson: “but you were told prior to that”
Charise Reeves: “but you didn’t put it on the agenda”
VP Richardson: “you were told prior to that”
Director Skoien: “This sounds vaguely familiar when people complained about certain directors causing excessive staff time for undo requests. If she didn’t have enough time it means she was busy. ”
VP Richardson: “I don’t know how much further back I could go than January.”
Director Skoien: “Well it’s only February.”
VP Richardson: “That’s right”
Discussion continued with the final understanding being that the Financial Administrator would incorporate the 14 month old attorney suggestions into the apparently forgotten proposed replacement contract. Contact would be made with Throckwisp to schedule a future meeting and the item will be placed on next month’s agenda.
Proposed March 1st, 2012 SPECIAL MEETING for Job Descriptions, Salary Plan and another Personnel matter.
Directors Comments:
Director Skoien: “Well I would like to say one quick comment but I don’t want to get Lew mad at me.”
VP Richardson: “OK, I probably will then I’ll have to comment.”
Director Skoien: “No, no, I doubt if you will, ah just the fact that what went on there with all these requests and it didn’t quite go the way you wanted I think, I think you were a little overboard with Charise there, I mean stuff is happening and that’s all I wanted to say.”
VP Richardson: “OK, but what you should understand is some of these requests go way, way, months, and months and months ago, and I understand that they are difficult to fill because you’ve got a lot of other things to do and I understand that, but still, how can we make legitimate worthwhile decisions if we don’t have accurate information of how we got here?”
Director Skoien: “Well I know but it wasn’t just the contract, the Throckwisp”
VP Richardson: “But it’s just the contract that is wide open”
Director Skoien: “I know, they seem to be, they seem to, these contracts seem to be, you know, you’re almost like the contract Nazi now, and I understand that but they’re not, they haven’t stopped paying us yet and we’ll get it, we’ll get it.”
VP Richardson: “Well you know a lackadaisical attitude like that could get us in trouble.”
Meeting adjourned @ 1713hrs.
My best to you and yours, Lew
